In addition, ISTPs have difficulty reading emotions and are logical and factual in their approach to relationships. ENTJs live and breathe their ambitions, spending a huge amount of their time thinking and working on their goals. Most of them at least. 10 Reasons Why INTPs Dislike ENTJs. While everyone else is agonizing over a decision, an ENTJ will have spotted the smart way to get things done, mapped out an action plan, and gathered all the resources she needs to accomplish her mission. I am a pisces with leo moon and capricorn rising and I grew up thinking I was a dark person and nobody understood my jokes so I tried to not make any and loved criminal movies and I never tried to discuss with ppl especially if they cannot understand my taste and starts an argument about it, I really don't fit into very friendly individual now but I used to be a people pleaser until I relised some ppl are not worth the help and some refuse to change. I thought I was the only one putting a mask on. You're materialistic and shallowall about food, money, sex, and social statusand this makes you an impossible person to be around if, heaven forbid, one entertains abstract or impractical interests. What do INTPs respect about ENTJs? Women hate me, female bosses and I, no way!!! I have found that dis crediting another's passion only indicates that we are condemning another's perspective. Sometimes they are purely for fun, other times I really want to implement them and just need som. So excuse me if I have a soft spot for these cut-to-the-chase innovators that exude confidence and drive. Jayne is a B2B tech copywriter and the editorial director here at Truity. Non-reality living and mindsets simply haltprogress. Or a hobby for, say, astronomers who don't take astrology seriously My bf is entj and I literally told him you have to start acting like you don't care about what you're doing at work bc others were getting so jealous of him and trying to trip him up! Consedring that we have the biggest balls ever, emotions and charm is left for the rest of the population. I am an ENTJ -Pisces. INTPs trust ENTJs better when theyre allowed to be spontaneous and adventurous, not preoccupied with how their ideas and actions will be interpreted. Their hard-working and ambitious nature. I do not think another ENTJ and I would be able to work shoulder to shoulder, but I have has success with INFPs in the past, and in my marriage. I amstrategicallyquickacting. For instance, if you get an MSc in Physics, you'll be like 'STEM is the way to go. At the moment, I feel like I'm driving a car with a drawn handbrake. Before he started at the company I'm at, I had never met one. While these personality types can have their difficulties, it doesnt mean that they cant work well together. I would NEVER tell someone to "stop thinking." Neither type has a lot of patience for doing the same thing day in and day out. INTPs also admire ENTJ's insight and the ability to actually do something about their shared ideas. Then my mom took all the money. 8-when expressing my feelings, they are misinterpreted, and most of the time misinterpreted as anger, my emotions run deep and often times but things run deep and often times my anger is my weakness, if im sad usually i close mysf of to just contemplate and find a solution, if I don't find a solution I really get out of my element and feel lost 9-acting before thinking has been an issue growing up, but hey I'm a gambler and I want to see results as soon as possible. And this makes me more and more unhappy. It is sexist, To assume was every woman wants. I also can't relate to most people unless they're an NT type, which is my significant other. Irelate to this post and alot of the commentary. Recently told a peripheral friend my cold-hearted shoulder is a poor choice for commiserating;tears have no power over me and I don't feel sorry for people whomarinate in their problems, especially when they're very clever and more than capable of doing something about it. What I'm getting at is that you shouldn't hide your personality type because other people don't like it. It's refreshing to be understood and comforting to be able to be straight to the no bullshit point. It paves way for mistakes to be perpetuated, and that's a waste of time. Nothing else. INTPs and ENTJs can end up neglecting the details and practicalities of everyday life. I refuse to be manipulated. INTPs and ENTJs both tend to be private about their emotions and it can take a long time for them to open up. JHBowden said: INFPs are genuine people, good for warm fuzzy stuff like hugs and snuggles, and when well-developed have a stable sense of who they are. But in my experience, ENTJs are even more protective of their emotions than their Introverted cousins. The primary difference between these two personality types is their focus. INTP replies: Lets stay in, forget the parents, have sex and order pizza! And as we progress in our physics understanding, the more I think it will be Quantified. but "huh, that's weird". Why do INFJs like ENTJs? Saem with my family, friends etc. As an INTP, I'm constantly re-iterating and self judging. Action and thinking are not mutually exclusive. Despite growing up with my dad and visiting my mom on the weekends I grew up much closer to her than to my dad (ISTP). They dont have to carefully package their words for fear of hurting someone. Are stupid acting and wannabies. Same thing this is not related to ENTJ. I am a female INFJ and my husband is ENTJ. Just watch. We explore this combination's goals, str, For MLK Day of Service, we're donating 10% of each purchase to nonprofits working to help people find their paths i. My mind is always calculating periods of free time in a day suitable for sex. At least we have something to pursue. ENFJ -INFP relationships. Your diplomacy is really an offsetting excuse and a refusal to admit you're a shit person. These personality types seek out new experiences and adventures wherever they are. Like some of you, I tried to be more normal for the last fear years and it worked ok butback fired on my health. This is so true. They often find ENTJSs to be pushy, controlling, and too demanding. One is a selfless but patient "planner" that never gets around to actually doing it/ doesn't want to ever start, and the other is a self-serving hot-blooded pursuer. INTPs are not lazy they just have a different way of prioritizing tasks. "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will loose both." This 3% is what makes us special. The main problem people have with it is that you can take it one time and get a different answer than the next time, but people's presonalities change, and if you put in same/similar answers you're going to get the same type. Still most people would not even question this, because it is so easy to be victimized by us people. Sexuality is another important area which brings out the Fe shadow of the INTP. If an ENTJ messes up, he or she is very unlikely to want to say sorry. We're one of the most kick ass personality types in the world, we're the people who see what needs to be done and get it done right. As an ENTJ, I feel like you stated whatI wish everyone knew about me. Have a great rest of your day! INTPs and ISTPs possess many of the same personality characteristics. Unforeseen issues arise from even the best laid plans. They are assertive and enjoy taking charge in most situations. In fact, several factors may be the underlying reason behind the clash between ENTJ and INTP personality types. This is not just a couch!'. ENTJs just get what INTPs try to say because they are both intuitive thinkers. Who cares what people think. These two personalities share a love for science and facts. Finally I also got to learn to love, be patient and have empathy. While I think Elizabeth is more likely an INTP/INTJ hybrid than an ENTJ, she still has the curious mind and logical, big-picture insight that all NT personality types strive to have. Love language simply refers to how you prefer to receive and give love. 100% agree. Astrology has been debunked multiple times and has no effect on any aspect of peoples lives. What I don't like is that they're often kinda uptight, take themselves too seriously. You just had the fortune to actually find one of us, or who are we kidding, he found you and made you his, because he chose so. 1-I'd agree with having problem expressing my emotions but more so understanding them was the challenge. It's just that dotting the 'i's' and so on requires the ENTJ to slow down and spend far too long thinking about one thing. 14. ENFJs can help INTPs understand emotions (both their own and other people's). Ah good then it is not me! INTP's are often attracted to ENFJs warmth, optimism, and enthusiasm for life. I a female ENTJ (pisces) also. Even womans. While we DO thinkour ways are the best ways and we do tend to be in charge and are great leaders - what MAKES a great leader is someone who can level with those around them and pull them along WITH them. I thought it was the ENFJ's that were the ideal match. I have a great amount of education and when I say something to someone Im working with, it comes from experienceand data. Asan intuitive thinker, doesnt neccesarily mean I agree with them. LOL! It's really harmful that a lot of these articles fail to mention that many of these "truths" hold true only for ENTJ's with poorly developed Extraverted Feeling (Fe); in those that have taken the time to do the workI can proudly say I haveI am offended that these stereotypes seem to say "f ck all the work you've done upon yourself". You will always wrong for them, and they will always wrong for you. I love ENTJs, don't really have time to analyze why right now though..I'll come back to this post tomorrow and edit in why. (and dislike). These personality types are optimistic and take a creative and unique approach to life, art, interests, and relationships. These personalities value absolute honesty as they work their own no-holds-barred track through life - it takes a lot of effort for them to communicate tactfully and with charm. Constantly want to manipulate me but I refuse to bent, then you constantly telling me about your superiority and then mocking me to actually use dirty tricks to make me bend in spite. I am a man with an incredible drive, and I have left a wake of pitiful souls behind, but I always try to find my wingman - usually an introvert. However, if you drop out of college, you'll adopt an 'I'm waaaay above education' attitude to justify yourself. I am currently 13 and I horribly struggle talking with the girls because Iam too well known for my arrogant and dominant nature. My name isn't Mercedes but I'm a Saggittarius ENTJ and will only drive a Mercedes lmao. I'm seventeen and an ENTJ girl. Find Jayne at White Rose Copywriting. I can understand why an ENTJ would want an INTP. INFJs can be evil when they lack emotional maturity. They love adventure and excitement. INTPs should work toward accepting emotional expressions from ENFJs. ISTPs and ENTJs share some essential characteristics: They are direct and honest. It's taken me years to slow and and "tolerate" others and play nice waiting for them to come to the same conclusion I realized last week. Ah, ok. Well, i'd like the second (awesome) better, but i don't need it to survive :-P, locate/stalk a female INTP for use as a partner. Ive always been incredibly organized and I do NOT need a wing-man or woman to handle the "unimportant stuff" (because that IS important). 3-100% the same, apologize only to those who deserve it. Worst case scenario? You're basically ESTJs in disguise; you think you're macro-managing something, but you're trivial, you suffer from OCD, and you're just big, bloated fish in a small pond. 6. And affected consistently. As usual, saying anything against the ENTJ type and Es in general on this forum is resulting in a response by myself. Did he ever lighten up? Potential pitfalls-- they can be flaky sometimes, and they really, really don't like criticism! ENTJs can be a bit awkward or appear awkward when they are dealing with emotional situations or people. In the end it just kind of manifests as having to put on a different face at work/ school. ENTJs are also in touch with their bodies and sexuality. But who cares? I haver never ever cared how ugly or raw the truth is, just share the truth as that's all we have as a tool from which to make the next step. He specializes in using evidence-based approaches in his work with individuals and groups. women especially hate me. You could be sitting in a room with 10 professors and believe yourself to be more knowledgeable than ALL of them put together in one. I have no problems sharing my feelings - actually I tend to OVER share my feelings more often than not. Tried to blend with the girls, failed miserably. As a result, INTPs focus on logic and ignore their feelings and those of others and they usually offend others. I am ENTJ-T, you understand us completely. Any other ENTJ's feel like everyone is a soul less zombie while you're grocery shopping? Yep, everything was a flaw and fakery until I reconnected with my inner child. We make up just only onepercent of the woman population. Its humble and wise to say so. You must bow down to me because of that and no complaining. I am over 50 years old, she is younger. I originally posted this in another thread, but its topic was related to this one at the start and is starting to move closer. INTPs find ENTJs to be bossy, stubborn, and manipulative at times. I am a sagittarius-ENTJ and have the same issues, it is annoying when femalegetjealous for no reasonand so workingfor myself feels great, for that part so far, I didn't know I was an ENTJ before but I have always wondered why my female bosses didn't like me much, despite I get alone well with everyone. They can quickly become annoyed when they are reliant on other individuals. I am more touchy feely than most and work hard at hearing, protecting and caring about other's feelings. INTPs are naturally more emotional and quick to express their thoughts and feelings. With this in mind, I take actions that can be modified as needed. Lack of ambition. ok both of you are named after a car hahahaha, named after a car, named after a girl "Emil Jellinek, a European automobile entrepreneur who worked with DMG, created the trademark in 1902, naming the 1901 Mercedes 35hp after his daughterMercedes Jellinek." To claim you can handle your own personal growth is just silly. I am a sagittarius-ENTJ and have the same issues as Aries, it is annoying when female coworkers getjealous for no reasonand so workingfor myself feels great, for that part so far, I didn't know I was an ENTJ before but I have always wondered why my female bosses didn't like me much, despite I get alone well with everyone. INFJs help INTPs make and keep new friends and allies. I also try blending in, but it feels too forced. I hate that my self. The first reason these personality types may find it difficult to get along is their level of emotional vulnerability. ENTJs are extroverted, intuitive, thoughtful, and practice careful judgment in their everyday life. ENTJs, like INTPs, see the logic in telling the truth and would avoid . What You Must Know. You're know-it-alls and you believe your limited experience entitles you to opine on just about anything. Ugh, it's a blessing and a curse that we are so rare. For once, I am not being compared to a Disney villain! When I express a belief , I qualify it by saying it is my perspective and not subject to your condemnation. What can I say. GIRL I AM AN ARIES AND ENTJ TOO AND I COMPLETELY!!!! Cookie Notice I believe we arevery blessed to think the way we do! They can be self-absorbed; however, they look that way to others because they are highly complex and have contradictory functions. No.1: we don't share our feelings because it is not relevant to the subject. You're so business intelligence-focused, you forget to derobotize yourself every once in a while and experience life outside of corporate hell. Challenge me, but do not be a sissy about it. Lord knows the others are not. I've never felt more at home than I do right now reading this comment section. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Accusing me as rude when I raised my voice because you are still blind of the fact?! However there are thousands of years of history through recorded documents that all have the same bottom line. 3. I only execute her orders, which is obviously all she wants. And who should apologize for trying too hard? Lighten up about this? If you are an ENTJ, read this book to begin your quest in learning why you act the way you do and how you can come to appreciate who you are as an individual. I did try to fit in but when I stopped, I realized I can attract much better people and things in my life just being who I am.. Also when people love you they want something in return. Don't ever change! My emotions are very strong and can feel overwhelming but I always question where they're coming from because they can come from past conditioning, ego, transference--any number of places so often don't seem to pertain to present situations and it seems unfair to project them. So you're better than other people? Didnt know as a woman we make up 1% no wonder I always feel misunderstood.. agreet article. Typically, ENTJs, ENTPs, and ENFJs are attracted to INTPs. Well, you never know about wheel of life do you?! casually playing guitar in my mental arena, http://soredragon.blogspot.com/2008/06/judge-dread.html, Truth, just.Truth. I had many issues regarding questioning my type ever since highschool and college. Female ENTJ quadruple Sagittarius, Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune. If the only thing you are seeking in a relationship is to have a good time then yes, an INTJ is probably a good choice for an INTP. For the first time in life, I really love the work, but on the same way, I hate that woman so much. I enjoyed reading it because of how accurate it was and the fact that I've heard all of that before just adds the cherry on top. INTPs are Thinkers and as such their Feeling function is quite weak. I'm 22 and an ENTJ. Its true, female coworker hates me. It is said that intuitive pereceivers have a turbulent/dreamy . INTPs dislike when ENTJs get so confident in their ideas that they cannot see their pitfalls and biases. I don't care but I feel like people will see me negatively when that's not what I really mean. I'm deeply passionate about people and their complex personalities. The best thing we can do for ourselves as ENTJs is to own our power! Happy exploring! For about 10 years, I have been practicing and writing about spirituality, astrology, and self-development. Regardless of the lack of exactness in the MTBI, the simple sharing of points of view between rational people is absolutely worthless if those views are not to be challenged. Your self-worth isn't defined by the level of your concerete and proven success as much as it's defined by the impressionability of your aggrandized self-conceptualization. You can find them giving orders, yeah, but theyre also chasing the limelight, can take orders too if necessary, aesthetically inclined,abrupt and blunt, even brash, does procrastinate,in vain, open,anger-prone and are quite passionate. My significant other is like a lightning rod for rationality - he gets utterly confused when asked to lead with the heart. An extravert would help me out of my shell a bit, and a judging type would help me get things done and know my limits. Its their loss, and not up to us to change ourselves for their comfort. But as much as I like ENTJs, I couldn't eat a whole one . It sucks, women especially hate me. An ENTJ is just Carolyn Burnham at American Beauty, shouting, 'This is a $4,000 sofa, upholstered in Italian silk. I don't quite understand perfectly why these two types are idealy matched, and I am looking for someone with insight on this. Instead, they crave space in their relationship. I own my personality especially because it is so rare. But now I don't really care what people think of me. Btw your last words of "do you hate this dude?" INFJs can be self-centered because they use it as protection to shield themselves from pain and disappointment. Psychology has a lot to say about mental illness, less to say about what mental health looks like, much less "abnormal but healthy." Once you master your emotions as an ENTJ, you are unstoppaple to perfection. He believes strongly in the importance of self-care, good friendships, and humor whenever possible. As leaders, ENTJs are often well-spoken and enjoy organization and order. INFP stands for Introverted, Intuitive, Feeling, and Prospecting. But as I am an ENTJ and both my best friend and my boyfriend's of 8 years are both INTJs I am going to have to disagree with you in regards to how you believe that Entj/Intj relationships are negative. INTP personality types are often caught-up in daydreams. No matter how many facts you throw at them, its tough for ENTJs to change their mind. There's no need for you to rub it in. I've been tested twice professionally. Realise this is 2 months old. Read More Do ISTPs Like To Argue?Continue. ago. Do I am whiny because I told you how to do something that you are clearly wrong and blind?! Don't let anyone stop you from being yourself. They are their own worst critics. Adversely, ENTJs are protective of their emotions, goal-oriented, hyper-focused, focused on solutions rather than problems, and fiercely independent. Thankyou for your brilliant description. I've found horoscopes somewhat helpful in a "once you've exhausted the methods of rationality, you have nothing further to lose by using the methods of irrationality" kind of way. ENTJ and INTP is truly a match made in heaven. I think that is not good. It's clear that I shouldn't work for someone else. I might just not so subtly forward this article to everyone I know Not a bad idea. I don't see how you equate planning with commanding. I wish people would listen to what I say instead of how its said. However, I learned from this situation to at least think twice before doing the risky things since I am working in a bank. But i didnt feel like I was myself when I made that decision. I can't say I've ever had an experience where and ENTJ and myself got along great. (astrostyle.com), This is funny, firesigns and ENTJ. I just thought it must be me , not you. All the weaknesses you have described above i truely related to all of them, but my test results shows I'm an entp! Im a woman ENTJ and an Aries. So - one of the 1% of females here who is an ENTJ-T and I'm not sure if maybe gender or indivuduality (or a combo of both) has a role to play in what I'm about to say or what BUT I do find fault with some of these observations: 1. They're likely to expect sex on a relatively scheduled basis.". So misinterpreted. They may often pursue creative careers where they allow themselves the freedom of expression. . As an ENTP I would not even hear them. Can't speak for the world, but thisman is veryokay with it. INTPs are emotional, hesitant, relaxed, problem-focused, and dependent. You can find more information about the five love languages here. Aries sun, Capricorn moon, Leo rising. Under stress, it's common for an ENTJ to crash into his or her 'shadow' personality. Astrology is a pieceof a whole picture. The go-getter nature of ENTjs and their ability to take the lead and do the most talking in public situations fit really well with INTPs more reserved nature. She's ENFJ. Thats another part of their extroversion. It is interesting to see that this is a common thing for ENTJs. INTPs like that ENTJs are masters of efficiency, capable of accomplishing anything they set their minds to. I'm also a capicorn and I give really good advice to my friends who aren't in a good mood. Why are INTJs expected to fix everything about themselves, but ENTJs can be themselves? ENTJs may procrastinate because they are perfectionists, fear failure, or do not see any value in the relevant task. I expect everyone to acknowledge mistakes- I hold myself to that same standard. I am wondering about being a Cancer and an ENTJ. but my friends think I am charming, intelligent and friendly but idk if they know that I choose them to gain something from them (hobbies, success), love to have meaningful conversation with like-minded ppl who won't beat arounf the bush. At their best, the INTP + ENTJ combo is unstoppable. 10- tbh, that's both a good and bad thing, yes we need strong leader figures in the world, but too much of us might cause a problem, we are too Passionate and goal oriented, a clash is bound to happen. You are me to the very very T!!!! They can quickly become distracted when they are inspired to pursue other interests. They trust the data and act sensibly based on that. ENTJs are highly independent and try to navigate their life by relying on their own talents, ambitions, and hard work. I say sorry a lot of times, when I really understand that I've made a fault. I try and not let it get to me. And really, who wouldn't want one of these energetic, articulate, quick witted, out-of-the-box, competent, critical, heroic, playful, bewildering characters in their life? Read on to find out more about the top 10 things that terrify ENTJs! I go for that length just to tell him which one way he should take so he will be better at least in student's eyes (I am student, I know better) and make everything fair, but he refused instead. Why? Unfortunately, I have always struggled with being diplomatic in a conflict. The only way out is for him to reconnect with his extraverted thinking, usually in a dark corner away from prying eyes. As for inefficiencies thats my petpeeve lol. They don't need to know, that we see the big picture. 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